Seeking better debugger than gdb/ddd

[Spam Averse]

Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?

I really don't like these and would be willing to pay for someing better.

Thanks.

[Tauno Voipio]

Post by Spam Averse
Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?
I really don't like these and would be willing to pay for someing better.
Thanks.
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Please respond to the group, not by e-mail.

It would help if you told which ways The Better One would be different from
GDB / DDD.

Did you notice that DDD is not tied to GDB - it's able to front-end other
debuggers also.

Please try the other back-ends and compare to GDB to split the improvement
requests between the front-end (DDD) and back-end (GDB).

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi

[Alastair]

Post by Tauno Voipio

Post by Spam Averse
Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?
I really don't like these and would be willing to pay for someing better.
Thanks.
--
Please respond to the group, not by e-mail.

It would help if you told which ways The Better One would be different from
GDB / DDD.

GDB is a fine debugger and I am full of praise for all the people
responsible. Truely amazing work. Unfortunately, it's really the only
debugger around for Linux (Totalview is OK, but has problems too). The
main problem I (we) have with GDB is it doesn't work well with C++,
particularly namespaces. I hate to say it, but DDD, although good, is
no match for something like MSDEV's debugger - in fact, its a real
drawback in trying to get the NT developer using Linux ...

Cheers,

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Post by Alastair

Post by Tauno Voipio

Post by Spam Averse
Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?
I really don't like these and would be willing to pay for someing better.
Thanks.
--
Please respond to the group, not by e-mail.

It would help if you told which ways The Better One would be different from
GDB / DDD.

GDB is a fine debugger and I am full of praise for all the people
responsible. Truely amazing work. Unfortunately, it's really the only
debugger around for Linux (Totalview is OK, but has problems too). The
main problem I (we) have with GDB is it doesn't work well with C++,
particularly namespaces. I hate to say it, but DDD, although good, is
no match for something like MSDEV's debugger - in fact, its a real
drawback in trying to get the NT developer using Linux ...

What problems does gdb have with namespaces? It seems to work fine
for me.

[James Cownie]

Post by Joe Pfeiffer
What problems does gdb have with namespaces? It seems to work fine
for me.

Since GCC 3.x (through 3.3.2) doesn't emit _any_ DWARF debug information
about namespaces; the only comment about namespaces in dwarf2out.c is

/* Ignore namespaces for the moment. */
if (containing_scope && TREE_CODE (containing_scope) == NAMESPACE_DECL)
containing_scope = NULL_TREE;

I'm at a loss to know how _any_ debugger can possibly handle
namespaces properly with the output from that compiler.

If namespaces are being handled properly I guess you must be using
a different compiler.

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

Post by James Cownie
Since GCC 3.x (through 3.3.2) doesn't emit _any_ DWARF debug information
about namespaces; the only comment about namespaces in dwarf2out.c is
/* Ignore namespaces for the moment. */
if (containing_scope && TREE_CODE (containing_scope) == NAMESPACE_DECL)
containing_scope = NULL_TREE;
I'm at a loss to know how _any_ debugger can possibly handle
namespaces properly with the output from that compiler.
If namespaces are being handled properly I guess you must be using
a different compiler.

Did you try to contact the gcc folks about this problem? If not, could
you please collect all the necessary details (thus, I can post this
problem to the gcc development people myself in case you don't want to)?

I'm quite anoyed about the lack of namespacing in gdb for quite a while
as I'm writing a lot of C++ code and would like to see it working;
currently, debugging C++ code is quite painful, but I was never aware
where the problem really lies. Aparently, g++ itself is part of the
problem (at least, if I understand your statement correctly).

So long,
Thomas

[James Cownie]

Post by Spam Averse
Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?
I really don't like these and would be willing to pay for someing better.
Thanks.

You should certainly try our TotalView debugger.

You can download a copy and a demo license from www.etnus.com

(I get paid to code on TotalView, so won't say more).

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

Post by James Cownie
You should certainly try our TotalView debugger.
You can download a copy and a demo license from www.etnus.com

How well does it integrate g++/namespacing into debugging? Given
the claim of the above poster, proper support of namespaces seems
rather impossible given the current g++ architecture, but in case
that's wrong and your debugger does support C++ debugging correctly,
I'd like to try it. I need a *working* debugger for C++, and gdb
is, as stated, not sufficient.

So long,
Thomas

[d***@gmail.com]

I like the data graph of ddd. Very useful to create drawings of data structures.

Is there a way to annotate the connecting arrows? Or add comments to the graph?

I know I could save as ps and use other software, but I mean right in ddd.

Is there another listserve to ask questions like this?

[Paul Pluzhnikov]

Post by Spam Averse
Are there any x86 debuggers for Linux that are better than gdb/ddd?

TotalView from Etnus (www.etnus.com) is the only other debugger
for Linux/x86 I know about. Whether it is better I do not know.

Cheers,